The Disagreement

 Intro- The Historical Environment

·              Greeks Compulsion

·              Romans and Intimidation

The Reaction by Jewish Sectarians to Occupation and Hellenization: What does this mean to pious Jews?

·              Maccabeans

·              Nazarits/Ebionites/Jacobites

·              Pharisees/High Priest

We have asked the thesis question already: “What Would Jesus Do?”

·              Would he be Pro-Occupation?

·              Would he side with the Pharisees?

·              Would he be passive

We have answered previously that it does not make sense to have a passive Messiah during this time period

·              The Romans would have loved this: they were looking for persons like this

·              The Jewish authorities   High Priest would have had little problem with a Messiah only talking about “Taqwa”

What we have not said is that Jesus himself took up weapons this is not our position but, what would it mean during this time for a Jew to use the words

Messiah- “...And we sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that

which came before him; and we gave him the Gospel...” (5:46) 

Shema- “...the Messiah has said, ‘O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my lord and your lord” (5:72)

Torah- “...and if only they had upheld the Torah, the Gospel, and what had been revealed to them from their Lord...” (5:66)

These are fighting words! The people are effected by these words and they are reacting, and it then makes sense why the High Priest and the Hellinizers wanted to kill him!

·              He was speaking against them the compromisers

The Gospels reflect a different story so we must analyze their historic worth as “Texts” and find what we can find in them that can be seen as “Historical”

Dating- Frend, W.H.C., The Rise of Christianity. P.912-921

·              Jesus taken up and a Crucifixion: 30?

·              Paul converts: 35?

·              Council of Jerusalem: 48

·              Paul writes letters to the Churches: 50-62

·              James murdered: 62

·              Neronian persecution: 64

·              Pastoral Epistles written: 65-70?

·              First Jewish War: 66-74

·              Qumran Settlement destroyed: 68

·              Jerusalem falls to Titus: 70

·              Masada Captured: 74

·              The Synoptics are written: 75-80

·              Letter of the Hebrews: 80-90

·              Gospel of John: 90

·              Revelations: 95-100?

·              2 Peter: 100-120

Most important about these dates is the great amount of history that takes place before the writing of the New Testament:

·              Paul's main adversaries are dead

·              The Eye Witnesses to the life of Jesus are dead

·              The Jewish opposition to Rome have been silenced for the most part

The other problems with the Texts: Rahmatullah Kairanvi, Maulana. Izhar’ Ul-Haqq Part 1 and 2

·              The genealogy of Isa is conflicting both in lengths and ancestry (p.142-144)

·              His early years are conflicting and violate known history (p.148-149)

·              They do not convey the time correctly: conflict in history (p. 151)

·              The situations are confused (p.151)

This is of course of no surprise because the books were written DECADES after the great historical happenings in Judea by men who either did not witness the events or had now confused those events

What is agreed about in the Gospels:

·              A man is arrested

·              Tried for sedition

·              beaten severely

·              Crucified on the order of the Governor Pilot

·              Many of the disciples flee from the scene

·              Some stay

Allah tells us that this “is” what some of them “perceived.”

            “...And their saying , ‘indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the Son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.” And they did not Kill him, nor did they Crucify him; but another was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except following assumption. And they did not kill him, for CERTAIN.” (4:157)

This has been contested by Christians for 1400 years but

·              Nag Hammidi Discoveries

·              Understanding the History of Gnostic

What is in their text: Qualifying the Stories:

·              “...I saw him apparently being seized by them. And I said, “what am I seeing, O Lord? Is it really you whom they take? And are you holding on to me? And are they hammering the feet and hands of another? The Savior said to me, “He whom you saw being glad and laughing above the cross is the Living Jesus. But he into whose hands and feet they are driving the nails is his fleshy part, which is THE substitute. They put to shame that which remained in his LIKENESS. And look at him, and [look at] me!” (Apocalypse of Peter)

There is another tradition from this collection that reads:

·              “...It was another who drank the gall and vinegar; it was not I. They struck me with the reed; it was ANOTHER, Simon, who bore the cross on his shoulder. It was ANOTHER upon whom they placed the crown of thorns. BUT I was rejoicing in the height over...their error...AND I WAS LAUGHING at their ignorance.” (The Second Treatise of The Great Seth)

We know that these stories are “Newer” by this time but using a Historical theory: “The simplest story tends to be the oldest,” we can assume the following

·              A different tradition: Jesus not killed

·              Another made to look like him

·              There is confusion about this incident

·              It was not know until 60 years ago, yet Allah said them almost 400 years after their elimination.

So who differed on this who came up with this Idea? Paul! A man not around until after the fact.

·              Galatians 2:15- 3:5

·              Who is his opponent in this matter

·              It is the Hebrew tradtion that the Messiah can not be killed (Jamesian)

Yes have argued in vain.

 Next Week we will look into this confusion in greater detail inshallah. My Allah be our Guide to truth.